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the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. take on the nra! ban assault weapons now! ban assault weapons now! nra, ban assault weapons now! >> what is your reaction to that? >> rather than face -- rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes lawful gun owners and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action and all but guarantee that the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media calls semiautomatic firearms machine guns. they claim these civilian semiautomatic firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the 223 round is one of the most powerful rifle calibers when all of these claims are factually untrue. they don't know what they're talking about. worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law imposed on peaceable, lawful people will protect us where 20,000 other laws have failed. as brave and heroic and as self-sacrificing as those teachers were in those classrooms and as prompt and professional and well-trained as t
the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. take on the nra! ban assault weapons now! ban assault weapons now! nra, ban assault weapons now! >> what is your reaction to that? >> rather than face -- rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes lawful gun owners and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action and all but guarantee that the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media...
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and that means taking on the nra. they call themselves newtown united. their mission, to reduce gun violence and prevent other communities from ever having to live their nightmare. this morning, we are putting guns in focus. bill toomey help put together the group called newtown united. good morning to both of you. bill, to you first, i want to ask how you, your friends, your neighbors and your community is doing this morning. >> well, we're doing as well as could be expected, randi. it's been really hard on the community as you might imagine. but, you know, we're trying to work through all the different emotions. but this morning, we're doing okay. >> well, i know you're channeling some of those emotions into good work. and you had a meeting this week. and during your meeting, senator richard blumenthal and chris murphy said time wasn't on your side. did they explain what they meant by that? >> yes, they did. and we were very fortunate to have the senator and senator-elect join us this week. we had a series of meetings to try to begin a conversation in
and that means taking on the nra. they call themselves newtown united. their mission, to reduce gun violence and prevent other communities from ever having to live their nightmare. this morning, we are putting guns in focus. bill toomey help put together the group called newtown united. good morning to both of you. bill, to you first, i want to ask how you, your friends, your neighbors and your community is doing this morning. >> well, we're doing as well as could be expected, randi. it's...
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that's it. >> the nra says it has 4.3 million members. and the nra proposal is getting strong reaction on both sides. here is some of what you've been saying on twitter. proposal is ludicrous. is he suggesting we make our schools the front line. and if it's going to be put in place, it has to be a long-term placement so that future and current youth feel safe rather than scared. and what kind of gun would they carry? a machine gun, automatic gun, big gun, small pistol? one for each hand? and tammie jenkens says i thought about this the other day. if you know i'm armed you are less likely to attack me. and from hawkeye dave it's like dealing with teenage pregnancy by saying they should just say no. you can find me @randikaye/cnn twitter. >>> dedicated mother, olympian. that's the clean side of this sordid tale. wait till you hear the other part of this story. i gave birth to my daughter on may 18th, five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male
that's it. >> the nra says it has 4.3 million members. and the nra proposal is getting strong reaction on both sides. here is some of what you've been saying on twitter. proposal is ludicrous. is he suggesting we make our schools the front line. and if it's going to be put in place, it has to be a long-term placement so that future and current youth feel safe rather than scared. and what kind of gun would they carry? a machine gun, automatic gun, big gun, small pistol? one for each hand?...
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what do you expect the nra to say today? >> yeah, i don't think we know what they're going to say, and i don't think it's the right thing to kind of just speculate. i think we should talk about what we do know, which is that the overwhelming majority of americans, including the overwhelming majority of gun owners and nra members support sensible restrictions. you know, you just showed a poll that said the number of americans that support strict gun control, that's not the conversation. the conversation is around specific measures like criminal background checks on all gun sales. 74% of nra members support criminal background checks on all gun sales and our message today is really to them, to the nra members, you know, like president obama said, nra members are mothers and fathers, too, and we all grieve over this terrible tragedy and we all grieve over the 32 to 34 murders that happen every single day in our country, and there are things we can do about it and that's what we hope the nra is going to focus on as well, but it'
what do you expect the nra to say today? >> yeah, i don't think we know what they're going to say, and i don't think it's the right thing to kind of just speculate. i think we should talk about what we do know, which is that the overwhelming majority of americans, including the overwhelming majority of gun owners and nra members support sensible restrictions. you know, you just showed a poll that said the number of americans that support strict gun control, that's not the conversation....
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and tom foreman who attended friday's nra event. tom, what was it like being at this nra event? i won't call it a press conference. are you surprised that not a single journalist got to ask a question? >> it was not a press conference. all of us expected to exchange questions and answers with wayne lapierre and the president of nra who was there. it didn't happen at all. it did not happen but adamantly did not happen. several of us tried to call out questions to the participants and even at one point i said to them, would you answer even one question? are you willing to talk to the white house about any of this, even to that, they just kept walking. that was a big disappointment and sort of set the tone for the room. >> when wayne lapierre said falsehoods about semiautomatic weapons and the media are demonizing gun owners, is he right? >> no. but even before that what he got was a priceless gift of 25 minutes of free media from those news organizations that elected to carry it live. and i bet they were rather disappointed when they learned, as you just said, tom, that there woul
and tom foreman who attended friday's nra event. tom, what was it like being at this nra event? i won't call it a press conference. are you surprised that not a single journalist got to ask a question? >> it was not a press conference. all of us expected to exchange questions and answers with wayne lapierre and the president of nra who was there. it didn't happen at all. it did not happen but adamantly did not happen. several of us tried to call out questions to the participants and even...
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the nra's position is simply not ten nabl. when you have over 70% of americans, there should be a restriction on guns and, yes, we should have a registry for gun owners and for the nra to say, well, any sort of laws or amendments that you make, you know, it sort of takes away our ability to have guns or, once again, the second amendment, that becomes real problematic. they are not where the majority of americans are. the majority of americans are not where the nra is on this issue. >> erick, let me try this with you and then go back to lou cornell. i guess my point is, when you are looking at this discussion, it's not a discussion at all. everybody has their sort of own area that they want to talk about and no one is discussing, well, maybe we should discuss school safety. and the nra makes this point, when we want the make the president safe, he's surrounded by people with guns. when we want to make money safe at banks, we put men with guns there. so it's not as though it's a foreign concept to protect what is dear to people,
the nra's position is simply not ten nabl. when you have over 70% of americans, there should be a restriction on guns and, yes, we should have a registry for gun owners and for the nra to say, well, any sort of laws or amendments that you make, you know, it sort of takes away our ability to have guns or, once again, the second amendment, that becomes real problematic. they are not where the majority of americans are. the majority of americans are not where the nra is on this issue. >>...
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the nra became the nra as we know it today by being very savvy about its politics. and the simple truth is, even if there is a national movement right now in favor of doing something, everyone in washington knows that there is a long time between now and when such a law that actually will be considered. and during that time, a lot of the public sentiment can die down and more importantly the nra can work not just the national level, but the tremendous influence at the state and local level. all these congress members, all these senators, they do not run as national politicians. they run in a state or in a district. and what matters to them is how the people feel in their state or district. and what is driving these polls up right now, in large part, is a really tremendous outpouring of sentiment from, yes, some moderates in the middle, but also tremendously by people who already live in largely democratic areas, places that already favor more gun control. that probably makes very little difference to a lawmaker who comes from a state that does not feel that way, bro
the nra became the nra as we know it today by being very savvy about its politics. and the simple truth is, even if there is a national movement right now in favor of doing something, everyone in washington knows that there is a long time between now and when such a law that actually will be considered. and during that time, a lot of the public sentiment can die down and more importantly the nra can work not just the national level, but the tremendous influence at the state and local level. all...
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guns, the nra. in a few minutes we'll get reaction live from the democratic committee, debbie wasserman schultz. she'll be here in "the situation room." she has strong views on these issues. >>> the political chaos up on capitol hill. after last night's stinging rejection by his own party, john boehner has no sole-called plan c for avoiding the fiscal cliff of tax hikes, spending cuts that hit in just 11 days. our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is joining us from capitol hill with the key question. dana, where do we go from here? >> reporter: well, the speaker insisted that he is not giving up on talks with the president but the reality is that since his plan b blew up, everybody is searching for a plan c that might not include the president and the speaker. but that plan c may include going off the fiscal cliff. the morning after his embarrassing fiscal cliff debacle at the hands of his own gop caucus, the speaker emerged with the understatement of the year. >> it's not the outcome th
guns, the nra. in a few minutes we'll get reaction live from the democratic committee, debbie wasserman schultz. she'll be here in "the situation room." she has strong views on these issues. >>> the political chaos up on capitol hill. after last night's stinging rejection by his own party, john boehner has no sole-called plan c for avoiding the fiscal cliff of tax hikes, spending cuts that hit in just 11 days. our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is joining us...
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in its first statement since the killings the nra has this to say. quote, out of respect for the families and as a matter of common decency we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again, end quote. cnn's george howell is following the politics and power of the nra. david mattingly shows us how talk of gun control is triggering a spike in gun sales. george, let's begin with you and the nra. what does it mean by meaningful contributions? >> carol, fair to say, it's an open ended statement. and since that statement, since the shooting, the nra has been silent. we know their facebook page, they took that down briefly. their twitter account also went cold. now both are back up. touting this big announcement friday. what that big announcement will be we have yet to see. again, we know their website is also up and run ing. you played just a moment ago a bit of this -- this program called cannon company. that's a
in its first statement since the killings the nra has this to say. quote, out of respect for the families and as a matter of common decency we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again, end quote. cnn's george howell is following the politics and power of the nra. david mattingly shows us how talk of gun control is triggering a spike in gun sales....
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do you think the nra's solution of arming these schools would be helpful? >> well, i don't think you could do it, suzanne. i think as a practical matter it's just not doable. first of all, you have 100,000 schools in this country. here where i am at virginia tech i'm 100 yards from where my other daughter was when the first shooting happened five and a half years ago and it was right down the hall and her dorm was where the first two people were killed so i look around this campus and there's probably 50 buildings. so will we put 50 police officers, one in each building and is that enough? we have 100,000 institutions and multiply that by the number of buildings if you're talking high schools, you've got kids outside on the football practice thing or the tennis courts or the baseball diamond or the gymnasium. you have how many doors on a good-sized high school, would you be able to guard every door because they can certainly wait while someone comes out one of the other doors and go in. >> another thing with that is if you put an armed guard in an elementar
do you think the nra's solution of arming these schools would be helpful? >> well, i don't think you could do it, suzanne. i think as a practical matter it's just not doable. first of all, you have 100,000 schools in this country. here where i am at virginia tech i'm 100 yards from where my other daughter was when the first shooting happened five and a half years ago and it was right down the hall and her dorm was where the first two people were killed so i look around this campus and...
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is this just playing up to the nra or a plausible solution? >> it's certain ly not a plausible solution, but the problem is, there are no plausible solutions. there's a guy, a criminalnologist who wrote a great piece about this. the thing with mass shootings, these guys are well prepared. and so, the idea from the right that you're dpoipg going to arm politician official, have them at every school is false and the idea on the left that you're going to eliminate guns, that's also false. you have to look at the gun violence problem more broadly rather than fighting the last war. >> but there is a disconnect in this conversation. the quote from frank lutz. here's what he had to say about the nra's propos. >> the public wants guns out of the schools, not in and they're not asking for a security official or someone else. i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun. >> so, first to you, where is that
is this just playing up to the nra or a plausible solution? >> it's certain ly not a plausible solution, but the problem is, there are no plausible solutions. there's a guy, a criminalnologist who wrote a great piece about this. the thing with mass shootings, these guys are well prepared. and so, the idea from the right that you're dpoipg going to arm politician official, have them at every school is false and the idea on the left that you're going to eliminate guns, that's also false....
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i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun. >> so, first to you, where is that common sense ground? from a republican policy perspective, what would that middle ground look like? >> my view is that you have to focus on gun trafficking. we have a huge problem with the federal private sales loophole in this country and the truth is there are a lot of republicans who are resistant to closing that loophole. republicans need to recognize that a second amendment and cracking down on illegal private sales both can happen at the same time. they need to move on that issue to be where the country is now. >> ever since the newtown shooting, i felt this has been a one dimensional conversation. it has been based on the issue of gun control. when to deal with and i think you have to look at it from multiple direction. the problem though is that you have folks who want the quick fix. they want to be able to say hey
i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun. >> so, first to you, where is that common sense ground? from a republican policy perspective, what would that middle ground look like? >> my view is that you have to focus on gun trafficking. we have a huge problem with the federal private sales loophole in this country and the truth is...
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the nra should stop, they won't. we should stop them from being enablers of mass murder. >> being the national rifle association. congressman, thanks very much for your perspective. >> thank you. >> jerriey edjerry. >>> former chief economist at the u.s. sentencing commission and author of the third edition of the book "more guns, less crimes." thank you very much for coming in. i'll give you a chance to respond. the united states has a lot more murders, you just heard from congressman nadler. he said it's because there are so many guns that are so easiil available out there. >> well, you look at the murder rates in the other countries whether if be germany he just mentioned or others and they had lower murder rates relative to the united states before they had the gun control laws. when britain, other countries, ireland, jamaica, other places imposed gun bans, murder rates went up. americans have seen that in places like chicago and washington, d.c. every place in the world that we have crime data both before and af
the nra should stop, they won't. we should stop them from being enablers of mass murder. >> being the national rifle association. congressman, thanks very much for your perspective. >> thank you. >> jerriey edjerry. >>> former chief economist at the u.s. sentencing commission and author of the third edition of the book "more guns, less crimes." thank you very much for coming in. i'll give you a chance to respond. the united states has a lot more murders, you...
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are not nearly as extreme as the nra leadership is on this. so i think there's a possibility of getting some common sense gun control measures passed. and you know, i know it doesn't look like this congress can do anything, but i think we need to try, and i think if we have the support of the nra members, we have an opportunity. you know, for concealed carry permits which they want to extend to every state, there are at least ought to be some minimum standards. for example, you ought to be an adult in order to be able to get a concealed carry permit. so those are common sense measures. i think we start with those. and we have a dialogue, as senator mansion and others suggested, see if we can at least make some progress on an issue that you know, has to be addressed. if we don'ten respond after the sandy hook elementary school massacre, we really are complicit in the next massacre of innocent children and we've got to ask ourselves, is our political future really more important than the lives of these innocent children. >> congressman jim moran
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sheriffs are now backing the proposal, including sheriff paul babu of arizona, who's written, "the nra is correct. we need a cop in every school. we have a people problem, not a gun problem." sheriff paul babeu is "outfront" tonight. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, john. >> sheriff, i understand the attractiveness of this proposal, an armed guard, a school member training with a weapon. but let's look at the facts, going back to columbine and virginia tech, columbine, they had two armed guards on the campus at the time, virginia tech had 34 armed guards. yet 13 killed in columbine, 32 at virginia tech. so the evidence, sheriff, suggests that armed guards on campus do not stop school massacres. >> well, you see a school that i grew up in, there was just one building. and some of these campuses or college campuses, as you point out, there could be eight, there could be 20-some odd buildings. and to my point, training and arming designated school administrators or designated teachers, not everyone, some school districts may not want to do this, but for those who do, law enforcemen
sheriffs are now backing the proposal, including sheriff paul babu of arizona, who's written, "the nra is correct. we need a cop in every school. we have a people problem, not a gun problem." sheriff paul babeu is "outfront" tonight. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, john. >> sheriff, i understand the attractiveness of this proposal, an armed guard, a school member training with a weapon. but let's look at the facts, going back to columbine and virginia...
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. >> the nra wants to see existing gun laws enforced and in the aftermath of the newtown massacre. wants armed guards in schools. >>> in
. >> the nra wants to see existing gun laws enforced and in the aftermath of the newtown massacre. wants armed guards in schools. >>> in
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the nra has four million members. you know, the campaigns like mayors against illegal guns and others, within a few weeks they are going to have four million members. this is just not going to be tolerated in the same way anymore. and senators like scott brown may end up being kind of the first test on this. he made that crafty statement because he opposed a federal bill in the past. >> you mean the state should have the responsibility. >> right. but he knew as a senator that it was never going to pass. he was the number one recipient of nra money in his campaign over this last year. a lot of senators are going to find themselves in the cross hairs because of taking all of that money and when he comes back to -- tries to come back to the senate, that may very well be a big issue. >> like joe manchin, the senator from west virginia, he's apparently ready to take some steps. the three steps the president laid out yesterday, i think he wants to do an assault weapons ban, for example, high capacity ammunition clips and ti
the nra has four million members. you know, the campaigns like mayors against illegal guns and others, within a few weeks they are going to have four million members. this is just not going to be tolerated in the same way anymore. and senators like scott brown may end up being kind of the first test on this. he made that crafty statement because he opposed a federal bill in the past. >> you mean the state should have the responsibility. >> right. but he knew as a senator that it was...
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. >>> the nra is making clear they are not about to consider tighter gun laws in the wake of the newton massacre. wayne la pierre repeated his desire for an armed guard in every school. >> i don't know if anybody has ever seen somebody shot. i have. this is a false debate. this is a convenient trick to try to divide our country, where most of us in america, including gun owners that agree on things that would stop the carnage going on all over america. >> booker is offering up an array of ideas, including universal background checks and tighter control laws. and he is exploring a run for the u.s. senate in 2014. >>> former penn state defensive coordinator jerry sandusky, responded to an interview request with a pennsylvania newspaper with a letter from prison, written on a small scrap of paper. sandusky says he wants to talk to the citizens voice newspaper but told to keep quiet by his attorneys as they appeal his conviction for sexually abuses ten boys. he says he spends 23 hours a day in his cell at a supermax security prison. >>> the end of an era. "newsweek" released the cover of it
. >>> the nra is making clear they are not about to consider tighter gun laws in the wake of the newton massacre. wayne la pierre repeated his desire for an armed guard in every school. >> i don't know if anybody has ever seen somebody shot. i have. this is a false debate. this is a convenient trick to try to divide our country, where most of us in america, including gun owners that agree on things that would stop the carnage going on all over america. >> booker is offering...
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. >>> republican congressman ron paul blasting the nra's plan for armed guards at every school. on his website he says, absolute safety is unattainable and pursuing it gives the government way too much control over people's lives. he also criticized those who called for more gun control laws after the shootings. he said, criminals just don't obey the laws. >>> america lost one of its most beloved actors, jack klugman has died. he was in the show "quincy." but he was best known for his role as the sloppy, cigar-chomping sports writer in "the odd couple." a show that never really took off with audiences until years after it ended in reruns and on nick at night. here he is with larry king back in 2004. >> never below. we're never above 45 were we were tony was so worried. i said, listen to the audience how they're laughing. >> you were never a hit. >> never, never. >> klugman was once a five-pack-a-day smoker and heaven chully lost his voice to throat cancer in the '80s but taught himself how to speak again. his son says he died with his wife by his side on christmas eve. klugman w
. >>> republican congressman ron paul blasting the nra's plan for armed guards at every school. on his website he says, absolute safety is unattainable and pursuing it gives the government way too much control over people's lives. he also criticized those who called for more gun control laws after the shootings. he said, criminals just don't obey the laws. >>> america lost one of its most beloved actors, jack klugman has died. he was in the show "quincy." but he was...
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moderator is under investigation for wielding this particular prop during an interview with the head of the nra. >> so, here is a magazine for ammunition that carries 30 bullets. now, isn't it possible that if we got rid of these, if we replaced them and said, well, you can only have a magazine that carries five bullets or ten bullets, isn't it just possible that we could reduce the carnage in a situation like newtown? >> i don't believe that is going to make one difference. >> why are some gun owners rooting for gregory to be locked up? should a new york newspaper published a map showing the homes of gun owners. the media in the middle of a debate. tomorrow is the last day to avoid what the press has described as an almost apocalyptic outcome. >> to avoid the fiscal cliff -- >> if we go over the fiscal cliff -- >> try to avert the fiscal cliff. >> the clock ticks down to the so-called fiscal cliff. >> closer than ever going over the fiscal cliff. >> the fiscal cliff negotiations are going no where. >> president obama may not have gotten a fiscal cliff deal, but keeping up the media pressure th
moderator is under investigation for wielding this particular prop during an interview with the head of the nra. >> so, here is a magazine for ammunition that carries 30 bullets. now, isn't it possible that if we got rid of these, if we replaced them and said, well, you can only have a magazine that carries five bullets or ten bullets, isn't it just possible that we could reduce the carnage in a situation like newtown? >> i don't believe that is going to make one difference....
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yesterday carol costello interviewed the president of the nra david keene. >> i'll tell you who i'd like to have indicted and prosecuted, the people in chicago, the criminals in chicago who made that one of the most violent cities in maeshlamerica. in chicago there's less chance that you'll be prosecuted under federal firearms laws than in almost any major city in this country and that's a crime. >> reverend jackson knows that city very well so of course we'll get his response to that, that's coming up in about 90 minutes. >>> shifting gears now, by now you've heard all about the finger pointing over the fiscal cliff, it's happening all day, both sides blame each other for the lack of progress and today, top congressional leaders will head to the white house for a meeting with president obama, trying to strike a deal with just four days to go. getting lost in the rhetoric are everyday americans like my next guest, she says washington needs to know how important the fiscal cliff is to those who are out of work, specifically to the 2 million americans who will lose their federal unemployme
yesterday carol costello interviewed the president of the nra david keene. >> i'll tell you who i'd like to have indicted and prosecuted, the people in chicago, the criminals in chicago who made that one of the most violent cities in maeshlamerica. in chicago there's less chance that you'll be prosecuted under federal firearms laws than in almost any major city in this country and that's a crime. >> reverend jackson knows that city very well so of course we'll get his response to...